20 Receiving TD’s, Terrell Davis: But Charles looks irreplaceable. That act in itself probably disqualifies and tells you he doesn’t belong there.
His playoff stats: As someone who loved watching him play, I say maybe when he’s much older but definitely nowhere near first ballot. While I’ve been at AP, I’ve analyzed many aspects of the performance of the Chiefs and their players.
Over the past 20 years, there has not been a single back who has even sniffed his huge yards per carry — and even when contextualizing those yards by down and distance (EPA) he leads the pack. And in the feeble total of 2 playoff games he played (both wildcard losses) and had good YPAs its very misleading – the first was mostly garbage in a huge loss and the other (just 3 carries!) There’s some great stat-years in there, sure, but only 5 of them, and of which 2 were virtually entirely garbage, last-place years for the team.
This lets us see a player’s contributions on a per-play basis — using both the traditional measure of yards per carry and one that allows us to better contextualize how those yards improved the team’s chances of scoring. The RB that should be in the HOF and it is a shame he isn’t is Roger Craig. You must be logged in to leave a comment. None are in the HOF. 7563 rush yds I think the Hall Of Fame should be reserved for only the very best players of their era and I also think stats do not tell the whole story. Of the 68 backs with over 1000 carries since 2000, Jamaal is the only one who has significantly helped (rather than hurt) the chance his team would score. 7 years over 1k yards Five seasons will probably not be enough to get him in Canton, as spectacular as those five seasons were. Sayers was fast and his ability to cut was like no other and despite injuries cutting his career short, he’s in the Hall of Fame. Excellent player, but his health will keep him out. Bettis shouldn’t be in, IMHO. If he had a more consistent career, sure. Santana Moss, Thomas Jones, and Haloti Ngata deserve recognition too. SWFLPC.INC says: 6.4 per carry and about 10 YPC receiving. terrell davis and frank gore should not go in either, corey dillon was had a better resume than all of them He should be in the HOF! This is certainly a crude analysis, because we’re taking a play-level stat (EPA) and assigning the play outcome all to one player (the rusher). Adrian Peterson Both had 5 peak seasons. April 7, 2019 at 9:11 am.
No chance he gets in. I would however, put Shaun Alexander in. Broncos fan here…Charles was one of the greats of his era! Davis was integral to two Suoer Bowl wins, and ran for over 100 yards in 7 straight playoff games. Charles was great for that 5 period run. Davis had 1819 touches vs 1717 for Charles, yet Charles had 10,157 total yards to 8887 for Davis. I have actually made this argument many times that I would rather see guys like Jamaal Charles get in then guys like Frank Gore who simply put up serviceable numbers for a long long time. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam.
… all great, all tough, but also over a longer period of time. Charles has a case if compared to Terrell Davis.
JC shouldn’t be in. While he statistically rushed for less than 5,000 yards, he’s a Hall of Farmer because of his talent and the plays he made. Hall of Fame? Davis had 65 TD’s vs 64 for Charles. Funnily, his peak was even shorter but brighter than Jamaal’s, plus his team success would play into it. He doesn’t stack up against his peers. Rocky Bleier should be in the HoF if Charles gets in. Post was not sent - check your email addresses! John Elway and Mike Shanahan’s legacies much different because of him.
But it might be a bit unfair to compare Charles to players like Aaron Jones or Gus Edwards, who only had a few seasons in the league; notice Charles’ much larger bubble, which corresponds to how many carries he had. Charles has 1 fewer total TDs but a 1000 more total yards. He’s definitely in the Terrell Davis category and most think he deserves to be in. Charles had the ultimate respect amongst his peers and the league which is why he was selected to multiple Pro Bowl and All-Pro teams. He is like Chris Johnson. But is efficiency (production per carry) all that matters for the Hall of Fame? 10,009 Rushing Yards He’s had multiple 200-plus-yard rushing games including one where he rushed for 259 yards in a single game, which is ninth all-time for most yards in a single game. Flacco, Stafford, Alex Smith. Did he promote values and celebrate excellence? Register now! Sure. We see that Charles is much more of an outlier when we look only at backs who have large sample sizes. Jerome Bettis? Terrell Davis? When we look at backs with 1,000 or more carries, he’s squarely average. The dictionary definition of an outlier is a person or thing differing from all other members of a particular group or set. Take a look at Frank Gore in this graph. 44 Rushing TD’s Marshawn Lynch has a better case, playoff performer and Super Bowl winner (especially if he plays another year and adds some stats). NBA rumors: Miami Heat to make ‘all in’ pursuit for Giannis Antetokounmpo? The 2nd rule of the hall of fame is you don’t talk about the hall of fame.. It opens it up for all other ‘short career’ players. He may not get into Canton, but he’ll always be a Hall of Famer in my book. Surely not anyone who started their career before, say, 1970 because that’s just an apples vs oranges argument. TV: FOX Receiving wise Davis had 169 receptions for 1280 yards and 5 tds, Charles had 310 receptions for 2593 yard and 20 Tds as an added bonus Charles averaged 24.4 yards on 51 kickoff returns with 1 td. … but what about Ricky Waters, Jamal Lewis, and Steven Jackson?
Sorry don’t think its gonna work out. The 5th rule of the hall of fame is let your numbers do all the talking. I happen to agree based on his yards-per-carry alone and the fact that he sustained it over many seasons. I mention AD because he & Gore are really the only other RB’s of this current era of almost retired stars that will make the HOF and even though he was probably a lock, the 1000 yds in his 30’s last yr pretty much sealed his ticket. – Davis 7 years 7607 yards, Then there’s Fred Taylor, NOT in the Hall of Fame: Davis and he are both out of the top 50 in total yards so a fair comparison. 5 seasons is one more than Terrel Davis and he’s in. “Spygate” and “Deflategate” pale in comparison to this and it never got the attention it should’ve gotten. “Jamaal Charles: Many say you need longevity to make the Hall of Fame. Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to email this to a friend (Opens in new window), Jamaal Charles: My numbers should put me in the Hall of Fame, Ravens’ DC yelled at Bengals’ coach for last-minute field goal down 27-0, Russell Wilson throws fourth-down TD with 15 seconds left to keep Seattle undefeated, Raiders end Chiefs’ winning streak with 40-32 upset, Dak Prescott has compound fracture dislocation of his right ankle, Gregg Williams: Jets allowing 32 points a game is not all on the defense, Report: Le’Veon Bell choosing between Bills, Chiefs and Dolphins, Jamaal Williams: Aaron Rodgers would never lose track of downs, better than some people already in Canton, 1,000 rushing yards and 5.0 yards per carry, SundaySwamiSaysDontDisagreeWithPftOrYourCommentWontBePosted. Thomas Jones Only one has done it.
He helped create the metrics around the... Cookie banner Davis had 1819 touches vs 1717 for Charles, yet Charles had 10,157 total yards to 8887 for Davis. And maybe only 2 of those guys get in. He’s a shoe in for the Hall of Pretty Good. Just because Terrell Davis was mistakenly put in doesn’t mean we should compound that mistake by letting Charles and everyone else in this category in. His 2010 is a top 5 all-time year by a RB, IMO. Had the longevity but also faked an injury to keep from being cut in training camp.
8 Receiving TD’s. Earl Campbell? Good luck with that dream. Amazing player and hall of fame caliber talent but I think his number of injuries will keep him out. We all can dream, wish, pretend and delude ourselves as grandiosely as we so choose. Terrell Davis is a bad comp for Jamaal Charles. Trying to work out who he is comparing himself to here?
Receiving wise Davis had 169 receptions for 1280 yards and 5 tds, Charles had 310 receptions for 2593 yard and 20 Tds as an added bonus Charles averaged 24.4 yards on 51 kickoff returns with 1 td. I drafted this guy on my team his rookie year as a flyer in case Larry Johnson went down. _________________. Jamaal Charles: Won me the championship! I hadn’t realized he had 6 years of 400 or fewer yards. Incredible player but for a really short stretch. Charles set records. No. If he didnt get hurt, hed be one of the all time greats. That argument of not playing long enough no longer applies after Terrell Davis made it. That’s all part of it. He once rushed for 165 yards in one quarter of football in an NFL game. Jamaal Charles mattered. April 7, 2019 at 6:55 am None are likely going there either. Davis is in because he was the main reason the Broncos win two SBs So let’s go through the rest of the running backs in the Hall, and the stats that aren’t yards per carry, as we’ve established that he’s definitely got the lead in that…, So, my conclusion is that I don’t really think that Jamaal Charles is a Hall of Famer – more a Hall of Very Good type – there are certainly comparisons that you can make if you were tasked with trying to get him in there.
Really, I don’t think any of them are really HOF material.
The Chiefs travel... Getting to know New York Giants’ cornerback Ryan Lewis, Cowboys vs. Cardinals Week 6 game: How to watch, game time, TV schedule, online streaming, radio, Jacksonville Jaguars player confirmed positive for COVID; Lions game remains on. But with the exception of two years Brian Waters was on the team, Charles’ offensive lines were nothing to write home about — and the Chiefs’ passing game was often more a curse than a gift. Charles averaged 5.4 per rush, Davis 4.6.
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