MacArthur's USAF commander gave the order to get the planes off the ground while MacArthur was virtually unavailable. If you liked this article and would like to receive notification of new articles, please feel welcome to subscribe to History and Headlines by liking us on Facebook and becoming one of our patrons! It is, of necessity, hype, It is rarely entirely - even remotely- truthful. A dirty little secret kept quiet until 1979 was the fact that MacArthur, already paid as a US general and also as a Philippine Field Marshall at the same time, was paid a $500,000 bonus by the president of the Philippines. The article conveniently skips Douglas' father's Medal Of Honor and his important role in the Civil War. Though told repeatedly to initiate the war plans, MacArthur did nothing, despite his air officer asking permission to attack Japanese bases in Formosa. Better they fear you and learn to respect their own abilities as demanded of them by such men.

And it certainly is not an enemy using mostly elite first-rate troops. (I suspect nothing will ever imprint on your fixed viewpoints anyway, so I am very much afraid that this is wasting my time really. Probably the best Allied Admiral of the war, and possibly one of the best higher leaders too. Williams | Juli Generalleutnant. Not to mention in Korea he was warned before hand not to approach the Chinese border to close. Immense resources were put into the Italian campaign, and the bombing campaign, and the Chinese campaign, etc. Smart move. "Absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing about China is the next big bogeyman since the Soviet Union is bogus. Dear Andy,I agree with a lot of what you say, but particularly with the comments on the value of high propaganda leaders in wartime above and beyond their real abilities.I agree that Halsey was probably not as good as better admirals like Spruance et al.I also note with amusement that I have seen various 'great captains/admirals of history' books that try to squeeze in MacArthur or Nimitz, more in an apparent desire to try and have an American that can be ranked with Julius Ceasar and Napoleon and Nelson and Wellington than for any realistic comparison.Nimitz did a good job by comparison to the US's other desk warriors, but he was comparable to Admiral Horton who won the U-Boat war from a desk, not to genuine seagoing commanders who also excelled behind desks like ABC (Cunningham) or Somerville . Wilby | President Truman ordered him to go nowhere near the Yalu river, the Chinese told anyone who'd listen the consequences of doing so. This to me is the real point, not whether MacArthur was a great general or not. An American anonymous.You can call me Mike Lowrey until further notice. Wotherspoon | China2. Those who do almost invariably work as "consultants" for the government. Nach dem Angriff auf Pearl Harbor am 7. Some of his soldiers sang songs that made fun of him. Scandinavia, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium did as well as Germany despite NOT being republics. Aside from his personallity which you obviously dislike, I don't see any true criticism of Macarthur here. Regarding his desire for fighting the Chinese: strategically he was right, but at the wrong time. The staff there had two comments that they kept repeating. )This could be partly because the Australian Imperial Forces were all volunteers, but you will note that the AIF's 8th division did very poorly in Malaya, not least due to poor leadership at both British and Australian levels, so there may be an argument for building experience rather than natural talent.But it is interesting to note that Australian volunteer divisions were considered - by both allies and foes – to be elite troops in both world wars (as was the Canadian Corps in WW1 and the New Zealand division in WW2). (But not as much as the USN, Burma, China, or the Russians). Vanity. Wow Nigel you have really outdone yourself here. 10 Reasons People Have Called General Douglas MacArthur a “Jerk”, On June 17, 1932, 17,000 United States military veterans of. "American Caesar." Nigel, have you considered rating Mountbatten? (I also disagree with the concept of Homma 'failing'. Makes no sense. MacArthur’s father was a Union veteran, his mother from a Confederate family. Sorry, that was about 40K KIA for the allies under MacArthur. The exact same conditions applied to the Aitape-Weewak campaign. I notice you didn't mention Los Negros or Hollandia, or his kill ratio in the Philippines or the fact that EVERYONE was lined up against the Inchon invasion. He was the one who had designed, and redesigned, and then changed at the last minute, all their defence plans. It is safe to say that the posters here on this blog possess less than one-tenth of Mac's intellect. One exception being Leyte Gulf where, at that particular moment, a suddenly discovered weakly defended island well beyond the range of his ground based air forces combined with the opportunity to bring in a—by then—enormously strengthened navy. The defense of the Philippines was, in American strategic planning, supposed to be a holding action until the American fleet showed up to relieve them. The time-worn shibboleth of Imperial Defence - read, Poms saving Oz with mighty Royal Navy etc - had been cast asunder by events and, reality. I suppose when you count in the casualties from a longer war in Burma, China, Russian operations, and deaths on the Japanese home islands, the number could approach millions, but I think even that is pushing it.But your fundamental point is sound. These were side-shows, much like using Stillwell to appease Kai-Shek and Churchill. "Regarding his desire for fighting the Chinese: strategically he was right, but at the wrong time. He also worked at his desk wearing a fancy Japanese kimono and smoked his cigarettes in a jeweled cigarette holder. (Multiple Movie Reviews). Pathetic would be a better description of the former, and lucky to have good juniors to cover his mistakes would be a fair assessment of the latter.The in between period was when he failed to understand that the Australian generals and troops who were slowly winning 'his' theatre back were not nearly as ignorant and incompetent as he himself was. Students will use the scale to organize evidence and arrive at their own conclusion about MacArthur.

Taylor | All of them. Manchester's book is a terrific romance novel. Palmer | As soon as the progenitor of the first Shogunate - Yoritomo - died, his wife's family grabbed power through her sons and ruled as de factor regents to the Shoguns who ruled in the name of a powerless "emperor" which was still controlled by their own regent.My favorite example is Yoritomo's 2nd son (the first proved to not be pliable enough for their mother's family and was disposed of) ... Sanetomo. much of the long-winded, knee-jerk reaction that usually comes from those inveterate MacArthur bashers and Truman partisans.A salient point on the Philippines: True - sentiment, politics and personal vanity all played a part in this but MacArthur wanted to retake at least the island of Luzon (the size of Ireland and Belgium combined) vs. Formosa (Taiwan)because Manila Bay had one of the world's finest harbors, and aircraft based in Luzon, would command the entire south China Sea and finish off Japan from its oil-producing (and other critical raw materials) southeast Asian empire, subsequently ending its capacity to wage war earlier.Seizing the Philippine island of Leyte on Oct 1944 would enable MacArthur to invade Luzon two months ahead of schedule. Their stated aims check very well against their achievements, whether in grand strategy and reconstruction, or Glass-Steagall and the New Deal. To his eternal credit, Mac had absolutely nothing to do with that idiocy. I await with my argument.

"Im not sure if you're being serious...Macarthur ordered men in New Guinea to move faster and charge the beachheads and Gona and Buna. Even though the position of "emperor" or "regent" had ceased to have any political meaning by the end of the 12th century with the conclusion of the Gempei War and the establishment of the Kamakura Shogunate. The South China Sea, which was one of the necessary places for British ships to operate for the invasion of Malaya, was under MacArthurs command, and he delayed the planned swap of it back to British command when he worked out the war was ending.In fact one of the reasons that the 30 Dutch and similar numbers of British submarines (most of them unsuitable for tropical operations), based in the Indian Ocean, had such poor sinking records against the Japanese merchant fleet, was that they were specifically excluded from this area of operations. Palmer (interim) | His misuse of Australian troops and profligate wasting of lives in New Guinea is 'legendary' in these parts. Sein Großvater Arthur MacArthur senior (18151896) war Gouverneur von Wisconsin. The Russians6. For example, Macarthur's campaign in the Philippines was beyond inept; Nigel doesn't even go into that.

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MacArthur's USAF commander gave the order to get the planes off the ground while MacArthur was virtually unavailable. If you liked this article and would like to receive notification of new articles, please feel welcome to subscribe to History and Headlines by liking us on Facebook and becoming one of our patrons! It is, of necessity, hype, It is rarely entirely - even remotely- truthful. A dirty little secret kept quiet until 1979 was the fact that MacArthur, already paid as a US general and also as a Philippine Field Marshall at the same time, was paid a $500,000 bonus by the president of the Philippines. The article conveniently skips Douglas' father's Medal Of Honor and his important role in the Civil War. Though told repeatedly to initiate the war plans, MacArthur did nothing, despite his air officer asking permission to attack Japanese bases in Formosa. Better they fear you and learn to respect their own abilities as demanded of them by such men.

And it certainly is not an enemy using mostly elite first-rate troops. (I suspect nothing will ever imprint on your fixed viewpoints anyway, so I am very much afraid that this is wasting my time really. Probably the best Allied Admiral of the war, and possibly one of the best higher leaders too. Williams | Juli Generalleutnant. Not to mention in Korea he was warned before hand not to approach the Chinese border to close. Immense resources were put into the Italian campaign, and the bombing campaign, and the Chinese campaign, etc. Smart move. "Absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing about China is the next big bogeyman since the Soviet Union is bogus. Dear Andy,I agree with a lot of what you say, but particularly with the comments on the value of high propaganda leaders in wartime above and beyond their real abilities.I agree that Halsey was probably not as good as better admirals like Spruance et al.I also note with amusement that I have seen various 'great captains/admirals of history' books that try to squeeze in MacArthur or Nimitz, more in an apparent desire to try and have an American that can be ranked with Julius Ceasar and Napoleon and Nelson and Wellington than for any realistic comparison.Nimitz did a good job by comparison to the US's other desk warriors, but he was comparable to Admiral Horton who won the U-Boat war from a desk, not to genuine seagoing commanders who also excelled behind desks like ABC (Cunningham) or Somerville . Wilby | President Truman ordered him to go nowhere near the Yalu river, the Chinese told anyone who'd listen the consequences of doing so. This to me is the real point, not whether MacArthur was a great general or not. An American anonymous.You can call me Mike Lowrey until further notice. Wotherspoon | China2. Those who do almost invariably work as "consultants" for the government. Nach dem Angriff auf Pearl Harbor am 7. Some of his soldiers sang songs that made fun of him. Scandinavia, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium did as well as Germany despite NOT being republics. Aside from his personallity which you obviously dislike, I don't see any true criticism of Macarthur here. Regarding his desire for fighting the Chinese: strategically he was right, but at the wrong time. The staff there had two comments that they kept repeating. )This could be partly because the Australian Imperial Forces were all volunteers, but you will note that the AIF's 8th division did very poorly in Malaya, not least due to poor leadership at both British and Australian levels, so there may be an argument for building experience rather than natural talent.But it is interesting to note that Australian volunteer divisions were considered - by both allies and foes – to be elite troops in both world wars (as was the Canadian Corps in WW1 and the New Zealand division in WW2). (But not as much as the USN, Burma, China, or the Russians). Vanity. Wow Nigel you have really outdone yourself here. 10 Reasons People Have Called General Douglas MacArthur a “Jerk”, On June 17, 1932, 17,000 United States military veterans of. "American Caesar." Nigel, have you considered rating Mountbatten? (I also disagree with the concept of Homma 'failing'. Makes no sense. MacArthur’s father was a Union veteran, his mother from a Confederate family. Sorry, that was about 40K KIA for the allies under MacArthur. The exact same conditions applied to the Aitape-Weewak campaign. I notice you didn't mention Los Negros or Hollandia, or his kill ratio in the Philippines or the fact that EVERYONE was lined up against the Inchon invasion. He was the one who had designed, and redesigned, and then changed at the last minute, all their defence plans. It is safe to say that the posters here on this blog possess less than one-tenth of Mac's intellect. One exception being Leyte Gulf where, at that particular moment, a suddenly discovered weakly defended island well beyond the range of his ground based air forces combined with the opportunity to bring in a—by then—enormously strengthened navy. The defense of the Philippines was, in American strategic planning, supposed to be a holding action until the American fleet showed up to relieve them. The time-worn shibboleth of Imperial Defence - read, Poms saving Oz with mighty Royal Navy etc - had been cast asunder by events and, reality. I suppose when you count in the casualties from a longer war in Burma, China, Russian operations, and deaths on the Japanese home islands, the number could approach millions, but I think even that is pushing it.But your fundamental point is sound. These were side-shows, much like using Stillwell to appease Kai-Shek and Churchill. "Regarding his desire for fighting the Chinese: strategically he was right, but at the wrong time. He also worked at his desk wearing a fancy Japanese kimono and smoked his cigarettes in a jeweled cigarette holder. (Multiple Movie Reviews). Pathetic would be a better description of the former, and lucky to have good juniors to cover his mistakes would be a fair assessment of the latter.The in between period was when he failed to understand that the Australian generals and troops who were slowly winning 'his' theatre back were not nearly as ignorant and incompetent as he himself was. Students will use the scale to organize evidence and arrive at their own conclusion about MacArthur.

Taylor | All of them. Manchester's book is a terrific romance novel. Palmer | As soon as the progenitor of the first Shogunate - Yoritomo - died, his wife's family grabbed power through her sons and ruled as de factor regents to the Shoguns who ruled in the name of a powerless "emperor" which was still controlled by their own regent.My favorite example is Yoritomo's 2nd son (the first proved to not be pliable enough for their mother's family and was disposed of) ... Sanetomo. much of the long-winded, knee-jerk reaction that usually comes from those inveterate MacArthur bashers and Truman partisans.A salient point on the Philippines: True - sentiment, politics and personal vanity all played a part in this but MacArthur wanted to retake at least the island of Luzon (the size of Ireland and Belgium combined) vs. Formosa (Taiwan)because Manila Bay had one of the world's finest harbors, and aircraft based in Luzon, would command the entire south China Sea and finish off Japan from its oil-producing (and other critical raw materials) southeast Asian empire, subsequently ending its capacity to wage war earlier.Seizing the Philippine island of Leyte on Oct 1944 would enable MacArthur to invade Luzon two months ahead of schedule. Their stated aims check very well against their achievements, whether in grand strategy and reconstruction, or Glass-Steagall and the New Deal. To his eternal credit, Mac had absolutely nothing to do with that idiocy. I await with my argument.

"Im not sure if you're being serious...Macarthur ordered men in New Guinea to move faster and charge the beachheads and Gona and Buna. Even though the position of "emperor" or "regent" had ceased to have any political meaning by the end of the 12th century with the conclusion of the Gempei War and the establishment of the Kamakura Shogunate. The South China Sea, which was one of the necessary places for British ships to operate for the invasion of Malaya, was under MacArthurs command, and he delayed the planned swap of it back to British command when he worked out the war was ending.In fact one of the reasons that the 30 Dutch and similar numbers of British submarines (most of them unsuitable for tropical operations), based in the Indian Ocean, had such poor sinking records against the Japanese merchant fleet, was that they were specifically excluded from this area of operations. Palmer (interim) | His misuse of Australian troops and profligate wasting of lives in New Guinea is 'legendary' in these parts. Sein Großvater Arthur MacArthur senior (18151896) war Gouverneur von Wisconsin. The Russians6. For example, Macarthur's campaign in the Philippines was beyond inept; Nigel doesn't even go into that.

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Hiding in to his bunker for a few months is irrelevant. Well I admit to being very biased to the common soldiers benefit. Starve and isolate the whole nation.Demand surrender.If Yes, you win.If No, re-deploy the victorious ETO assets to China, and crush the Imperial Army there, while continuing to starve/bomb Japan.That would definitely do it. His strategic emphasis, expressed in his constant whining to Marshall, was for the most part wrong. He is probably amongst the more balanced Japanese generals. He also refused advice to force Emperor Hirohito to abdicate even though many members of the royal family asked him to force the abdication. At the risk of becoming an "urger", I would be interested to see a blog of this nature conducted with respect to Charles deGaulle.

MacArthur's USAF commander gave the order to get the planes off the ground while MacArthur was virtually unavailable. If you liked this article and would like to receive notification of new articles, please feel welcome to subscribe to History and Headlines by liking us on Facebook and becoming one of our patrons! It is, of necessity, hype, It is rarely entirely - even remotely- truthful. A dirty little secret kept quiet until 1979 was the fact that MacArthur, already paid as a US general and also as a Philippine Field Marshall at the same time, was paid a $500,000 bonus by the president of the Philippines. The article conveniently skips Douglas' father's Medal Of Honor and his important role in the Civil War. Though told repeatedly to initiate the war plans, MacArthur did nothing, despite his air officer asking permission to attack Japanese bases in Formosa. Better they fear you and learn to respect their own abilities as demanded of them by such men.

And it certainly is not an enemy using mostly elite first-rate troops. (I suspect nothing will ever imprint on your fixed viewpoints anyway, so I am very much afraid that this is wasting my time really. Probably the best Allied Admiral of the war, and possibly one of the best higher leaders too. Williams | Juli Generalleutnant. Not to mention in Korea he was warned before hand not to approach the Chinese border to close. Immense resources were put into the Italian campaign, and the bombing campaign, and the Chinese campaign, etc. Smart move. "Absolutely ridiculous, the whole thing about China is the next big bogeyman since the Soviet Union is bogus. Dear Andy,I agree with a lot of what you say, but particularly with the comments on the value of high propaganda leaders in wartime above and beyond their real abilities.I agree that Halsey was probably not as good as better admirals like Spruance et al.I also note with amusement that I have seen various 'great captains/admirals of history' books that try to squeeze in MacArthur or Nimitz, more in an apparent desire to try and have an American that can be ranked with Julius Ceasar and Napoleon and Nelson and Wellington than for any realistic comparison.Nimitz did a good job by comparison to the US's other desk warriors, but he was comparable to Admiral Horton who won the U-Boat war from a desk, not to genuine seagoing commanders who also excelled behind desks like ABC (Cunningham) or Somerville . Wilby | President Truman ordered him to go nowhere near the Yalu river, the Chinese told anyone who'd listen the consequences of doing so. This to me is the real point, not whether MacArthur was a great general or not. An American anonymous.You can call me Mike Lowrey until further notice. Wotherspoon | China2. Those who do almost invariably work as "consultants" for the government. Nach dem Angriff auf Pearl Harbor am 7. Some of his soldiers sang songs that made fun of him. Scandinavia, Denmark, the Netherlands and Belgium did as well as Germany despite NOT being republics. Aside from his personallity which you obviously dislike, I don't see any true criticism of Macarthur here. Regarding his desire for fighting the Chinese: strategically he was right, but at the wrong time. The staff there had two comments that they kept repeating. )This could be partly because the Australian Imperial Forces were all volunteers, but you will note that the AIF's 8th division did very poorly in Malaya, not least due to poor leadership at both British and Australian levels, so there may be an argument for building experience rather than natural talent.But it is interesting to note that Australian volunteer divisions were considered - by both allies and foes – to be elite troops in both world wars (as was the Canadian Corps in WW1 and the New Zealand division in WW2). (But not as much as the USN, Burma, China, or the Russians). Vanity. Wow Nigel you have really outdone yourself here. 10 Reasons People Have Called General Douglas MacArthur a “Jerk”, On June 17, 1932, 17,000 United States military veterans of. "American Caesar." Nigel, have you considered rating Mountbatten? (I also disagree with the concept of Homma 'failing'. Makes no sense. MacArthur’s father was a Union veteran, his mother from a Confederate family. Sorry, that was about 40K KIA for the allies under MacArthur. The exact same conditions applied to the Aitape-Weewak campaign. I notice you didn't mention Los Negros or Hollandia, or his kill ratio in the Philippines or the fact that EVERYONE was lined up against the Inchon invasion. He was the one who had designed, and redesigned, and then changed at the last minute, all their defence plans. It is safe to say that the posters here on this blog possess less than one-tenth of Mac's intellect. One exception being Leyte Gulf where, at that particular moment, a suddenly discovered weakly defended island well beyond the range of his ground based air forces combined with the opportunity to bring in a—by then—enormously strengthened navy. The defense of the Philippines was, in American strategic planning, supposed to be a holding action until the American fleet showed up to relieve them. The time-worn shibboleth of Imperial Defence - read, Poms saving Oz with mighty Royal Navy etc - had been cast asunder by events and, reality. I suppose when you count in the casualties from a longer war in Burma, China, Russian operations, and deaths on the Japanese home islands, the number could approach millions, but I think even that is pushing it.But your fundamental point is sound. These were side-shows, much like using Stillwell to appease Kai-Shek and Churchill. "Regarding his desire for fighting the Chinese: strategically he was right, but at the wrong time. He also worked at his desk wearing a fancy Japanese kimono and smoked his cigarettes in a jeweled cigarette holder. (Multiple Movie Reviews). Pathetic would be a better description of the former, and lucky to have good juniors to cover his mistakes would be a fair assessment of the latter.The in between period was when he failed to understand that the Australian generals and troops who were slowly winning 'his' theatre back were not nearly as ignorant and incompetent as he himself was. Students will use the scale to organize evidence and arrive at their own conclusion about MacArthur.

Taylor | All of them. Manchester's book is a terrific romance novel. Palmer | As soon as the progenitor of the first Shogunate - Yoritomo - died, his wife's family grabbed power through her sons and ruled as de factor regents to the Shoguns who ruled in the name of a powerless "emperor" which was still controlled by their own regent.My favorite example is Yoritomo's 2nd son (the first proved to not be pliable enough for their mother's family and was disposed of) ... Sanetomo. much of the long-winded, knee-jerk reaction that usually comes from those inveterate MacArthur bashers and Truman partisans.A salient point on the Philippines: True - sentiment, politics and personal vanity all played a part in this but MacArthur wanted to retake at least the island of Luzon (the size of Ireland and Belgium combined) vs. Formosa (Taiwan)because Manila Bay had one of the world's finest harbors, and aircraft based in Luzon, would command the entire south China Sea and finish off Japan from its oil-producing (and other critical raw materials) southeast Asian empire, subsequently ending its capacity to wage war earlier.Seizing the Philippine island of Leyte on Oct 1944 would enable MacArthur to invade Luzon two months ahead of schedule. Their stated aims check very well against their achievements, whether in grand strategy and reconstruction, or Glass-Steagall and the New Deal. To his eternal credit, Mac had absolutely nothing to do with that idiocy. I await with my argument.

"Im not sure if you're being serious...Macarthur ordered men in New Guinea to move faster and charge the beachheads and Gona and Buna. Even though the position of "emperor" or "regent" had ceased to have any political meaning by the end of the 12th century with the conclusion of the Gempei War and the establishment of the Kamakura Shogunate. The South China Sea, which was one of the necessary places for British ships to operate for the invasion of Malaya, was under MacArthurs command, and he delayed the planned swap of it back to British command when he worked out the war was ending.In fact one of the reasons that the 30 Dutch and similar numbers of British submarines (most of them unsuitable for tropical operations), based in the Indian Ocean, had such poor sinking records against the Japanese merchant fleet, was that they were specifically excluded from this area of operations. Palmer (interim) | His misuse of Australian troops and profligate wasting of lives in New Guinea is 'legendary' in these parts. Sein Großvater Arthur MacArthur senior (18151896) war Gouverneur von Wisconsin. The Russians6. For example, Macarthur's campaign in the Philippines was beyond inept; Nigel doesn't even go into that.

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